[JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram] Seeking LOS Sponsor

Sandy Baird sandrabaird114 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 24 17:30:59 EST 2020


Alan Bjerke is right.  Lawyers are interested in people who can already do
stuff.

Sandy Baird

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:37 AM alanb72--- via JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram <
jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov> wrote:

>
> I have a slightly different perspective, garnered from 25 years of owning
> and practicing in law firms in Vermont.  Unless your sponsor is a relative,
> they will be more persuaded by what you can bring to their firm, than what
> you stand to gain from them.  As a inexperienced student starting out, to
> be frank - you are dead weight in a law firm, particularly if you are
> looking to be paid from the start.
>
> What makes you attractive to a sponsor is what non-legal skills or
> experience they need and that you can bring.  So, a nurse brings immediate
> value to a personal injury or medical malpractice firm.  If you have skills
> in computer automation (systems, document generation, animation, etc.),
> that is something a firm typically has to pay outsiders for and where you
> can add value in-house.  A realtor brings their rolodex of relationships to
> a real estate firm.  And so on.  Every firm is different and every budding
> clerk has something else to bring.  I would suggest that you look at what
> skills you have or could learn that provide value to a law firm to offset
> your dead weight for the first year or two.
>
> Alan Bjerke
> Burlington
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahakian, Evan <Evan.Mahakian at uvmhealth.org>
> To: Jennifer Cleveland <jennifer at sleighlaw.com>; Valentinetti, Angela <
> Angela.Valentinetti at vermont.gov>; Catie Michael <Catherine.Michael at uvm.edu>;
> jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov <
> jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2020 9:59 am
> Subject: Re: [JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram] Seeking LOS Sponsor
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> At interview you might choose to ask about the firms willingness to
> support and/or sponsor you. Raising the question could make you a more
> desirable job candidate.
>
> *Evan Mahakian, MHA, RN, CPHRM, CPPS*
>
> *Clinical Risk Manager - The University of Vermont Medical Center *
> *The University of Vermont Health Network*
> 95 St. Paul Street
> Burlington, VT 05401
>
> Tel:  802-847-1519
> Fax: 802-847-1507
>
> *From:* Jennifer Cleveland <jennifer at sleighlaw.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 9:31 AM
> *To:* Valentinetti, Angela <Angela.Valentinetti at vermont.gov>; Catie
> Michael <Catherine.Michael at uvm.edu>;
> jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov
> *Subject:* Re: [JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram] Seeking LOS Sponsor
>
> Agreed. And that way you get paid while you are completing the study. Plus
> you learn a lot of basic skills, get experience working with clients, and
> pick up ideas for home study while preparing pleadings for filing.
>
>
> Jennifer Cleveland
> Case Management Assistant
> Sleigh Law
> 364 Railroad Street, Suite E
> P.O. Box 278
> St. Johnsbury, VT 05819
> Phone (802) 748-5176
> Fax (802) 748-6618
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Valentinetti, Angela [mailto:Angela.Valentinetti at vermont.gov
> <Angela.Valentinetti at vermont.gov>]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 9:12 AM
> *To:* Catie Michael; jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov
> *Subject:* Re: [JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram] Seeking LOS Sponsor
>
> Catie,
> I recommend keeping an eye on the VBA’s and the State of Vermont’s job
> openings websites, or any other sources for positions as a legal
> secretary/assistant, paralegal, or basic office assistant in a law firm.
> That is a great first step to more easily finding a sponsoring attorney.
> I’ve found that attorneys are also more willing to sign on if you can
> present them with a clear study plan that requires minimal effort and time
> on their part.
>
> Best of luck!
> Angela
>
> Angela Valentinetti, Esq*. * | Records & Information Management
> Specialist IV
> *Vermont State Archives and Records Administration*
> 1078 U.S. Route 2, Middlesex | Montpelier, VT 05633-7701
> 802-828-5018 (direct line) | angela.valentinetti at vermont.gov
>
> *From:* Catie Michael <Catherine.Michael at uvm.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:15 PM
> *To:* jud.lawofficestudyprogram at list.vermont.gov
> *Subject:* [JUD.LawOfficeStudyProgram] Seeking LOS Sponsor
>
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> Hello,
>
> My name is Catie Michael, and I am currently a senior at the University of
> Vermont. Upon graduating, I am hoping to participate in the Law Office
> Study Program. I am reaching out because I have been struggling to find
> someone willing to sponsor my apprenticeship. I was wondering if any of you
> have any advice for finding a placement, or perhaps know of any attorneys
> who might be able to sponsor me.
>
> I am willing to relocate for the job, so I am happy to work anywhere in
> the state.
>
> All the best,
>
> Catie
>
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